ABOUT THE ANCIENT GREEKS
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ABOUT THE ANCIENT
GREEKS (L. GRAECUS, Gr. GRAIKOS).
By POLAT KAYA
In this essay I
like to bring to surface some less known and less
talked about
information regarding the ancient Greeks. It is
important because
it sheds light on some aspects of the ancient
world.
G. S. Kirk [1],
Emeritus Professor of Greek at Cambridge, in his book
entitled, "The
Nature of Greek Myths" writes:
"That Greek
myths were infected by Near-Eastern themes is of
exceptional
importance in itself. That is so not only because it
casts a faint
glimmer of light on the development of Greek culture and
ideas in their
formative stage, but also because it makes it easier to
isolate the
specifically Hellenic contribution, the particular
intellectual and
imaginative ingredients that made Greek civilization
such a very
different phenomenon from those of western Asia and Egypt.
We are, of course,
dealing here with possibilities that are little
understood, and in
addition present serious problems of ethnic and
cultural
definition, The very term "Greek" is full of ambiguity.
'Greek', like
'Akkadian', denotes a language rather than a people.
The Greek-speaking
people began to enter the Greek peninsula shortly
before 2000 B.C,
but they found there an indigeneous population that
already that had
cultural and perhaps and linguistic connections with
Asia Minor. The
names of prominent geographiacal features like Mount
OLYMPUS, or the sea
itself, THALASSA, of settlement-sites like
KORINTHOS, LINDOS
or MUKENAI (Mucenae), of vegetation like KUPRESSOS
(cypress) and
HUAKINTHOS (hyacinth), have close west-Asiatic
parallels, and are
definetely not Greek in type and origin. They
were taken over by
the Greek-speaking immigrants, together with heaven
knows what else in
the shape of myths, deities, cults and rituals.
The somewaht
separate culture of Early Bronze Age Crete complicates
the issue, and so
do the Greek speakers themselves - where they come
from, proximately
and ultimately? Presumably, by the THALASSA
criterion, not from
near the sea, otherwise they would not have needed
to borrow a word
for it. At present it looks more probable than not
that they came from
somewhere far to the north east of Greece, and
moved down into the
peninsula partly through Asia Minor and across the
Aegean and partly
through the eastern Balkan area. If so, they may
have brought with
them further west-Asiatic ideas, as well as older
Indo-Iranian ones
such as that of the sky god ZEUS."
MY COMMENTS:
1. Evidently,
ancient Greeks were not native peoples of the geography
known as
"Greece" or any other place. They were the "wanderers"
(gypsies,
Roums/Rums, Romans) going from place to place, but having no
place of their own,
nor a language of their own. They took most of
their culture and
language from the ancient Turanian natives of
ancient Greece
(Yunanistan) called Pelasgians (Turkic Saka people).
2. The statement
that "THE VERY TERM "GREEK" IS FULL OF AMBIGUITY.
GREEK, LIKE
AKKADIAN, DENOTES A LANGUAGE RATHER THAN A PEOPLE." is
very meaningful.
How can one have a
language without having people to speak it? If
ancient Greeks and
Akkadians were not "people" (nation), then how
did they come up
with a language that they called their own? Could
it be that they
somehow concocted a language from an already
existing universal
language?
Evidently, these
peoples had neither nationality nor a place of their
own; and hence, had
no language of their own. They were wanderers
going from place to
place and getting by with a broken language (note
the similarity
between the name "Greek" and the Turkic phrase "GIRIK")
that they made up
as they travelled. There was, for their use, a
readily available
ancient Turanian language which was spoken by the
ancient Turanian
peoples spread over a wast geography of the world at
those ancient
times. Turanians were the Turkic speaking peoples who
"antedated the
Aryans in Europe and Asia" [2]. Note that even the
term "Aryan"
has relation with Turkic word "ariyan" meaning
"wanderer".
Those Akkadian and Greek wanderers utilized the ancient
Turkish language as
spoken by Sumerians and Masarians to
manufacture new
languages for themselves, that is, by anagrammatizing
the words and
expressions of ancient Turkish to come up with new words
for languages that
they call their own.
The universal
Turkic language was spoken by all the ancient Turanic
peoples such as
Pelasgians, Aegeans (from Turkic "Ay-Gün", "Ay-Günes",
"Ay-Han-Gün-Han"),
Sumerians, Masarians/Misirians (incorrectly called
Egyptian which
refers to Gypsies), Anatolians, Hurrians, Medeans and
many others.
3. Turanians were
people who lived in Asia and Europe far earlier
than the so-called
Indo-Europeans who moved in most likely from the
Indian
sub-continent like the other wanderers.
4. The name GRAECIA
for ancient Greece (from Turkic word "Garaci"
(gezginciler)
meaning "House of wanderers", also has another hidden
meaning which is
from the Turkic phrase "Gara Ayci" indicating that
they worshipped the
"black moon" and also the "black night sky". Their
one time god, named
CRONUS (Kronus), is an anagrammatization of Turkic
"KARA HAN
US" or "KARA HAN" meaning "Black Lord Wise" or
"Black Lord"
respectively. This
is an evidence of the origin of their religious
identity. "AK
HAN" (White Lord) and "KARA HAN" (Black Lord) concepts
come from the
ancient Turanian Sky-God duality concept (Yin Yang is
also modelled after
this). In religious terms, this means that the
ancient Greeks, by
accepting the black aspect of the ancient Turanian
Sky God (i.e.,
"Kara Han"), polarized themselves against the Ak-Hans.
This is true for
some other groups as well.
5. The name of the
AEGEAN SEA area:
AEGEAN : This name
is defined as "of or pertaining to the Aegian
islands or the
Aegian sea: specifically, of or pertaining to the
ancient
civilization of this region" [3].
This statement from
the reference dictionary indicates that there were
Turanian peoples
who called themselves "AY-GÜN" that inhabited the
so-called AEGEAN
Sea area far before the Greeks arrived there. The
name of the AEGEAN
Sea carries their name. It has nothing to do with
the
"Greeks" as wrongly portrayed and perpetrated. These much more
ancient peoples
were the Turkic Ay-Gün peoples who believed in the
ancient Turanian
trinity Sky-God religion centered on the concept of
"One-Father-God,
Sun-God and Moon-God" (Turkic Bir-ATA-Tengri,
Gün-Tengri ve
Ay-Tengri). Their names are after Ay-Han and Gün-Han in
the Turkic OGUZ
KAGAN epic.
Ancient Turkic
people gave their names to the lands that they
inhabited just like
people give their names to their business
presently. The
ancient Turkic word for their land, home and house was
ÖY, ÜY, OY, AY and
similarly with Y/V change, ÖV, ÜV, OV, AV, EVI.
These Turkic words
have been Hellenized as OI, UI, IA and in Latin
suffix
"IUM" from Turkish "ÖYÜM" meaning my home". Other
Turkic
words for
"land" were "IL" and "ALAN". The English word
LAND is
anagrammatized from
Turkish "iLINDi" and/or "aLANDi" meaning
"it is your
country, your land, your field".
6. Referring to the
words that G. S. Kirk mentions, he states: "THEY
WERE TAKEN OVER BY
THE GREEK-SPEAKING IMMIGRANTS, TOGETHER
WITH HEAVEN KNOWS
WHAT ELSE IN THE SHAPE OF MYTHS, DEITIES,
CULTS AND
RITUALS".
The meaning of this
statement is that those ancient Greeks took not
only words but also
took the ancient MYTHS, DEITIES, CULTS AND
RITUALS of the
Turkic speaking natives of ancient Yunanistan.
Additionally, they
also took many of the phrases of the ancient Turkic
LANGUAGE and
manufactured a "fully-developed-language" called Greek by
breaking and
reshaping the Turkic words and phrases. Thus it becomes
clear that these
ancient wanderers had no culture of their own to
offer. They took
most everything from the native Turanians of that
time. Amongst what
they took was also the wall making techniques and
architecture of the
ancient Turanians - known as the Pelasgian walls
which were just
like the ancient large-stone walls in Malta, the
large-stone Inca
walls and the Mycaenian walls. This is contrary to
the misinformation
perpetrated so far that Turs/Turks were only nomads
and did not know
anything but YURT making. This kind of "information"
is nothing but
disinformation and propaganda. (Note even the word
"propaganda"
is itself an anagrammatization of the Turkish phrase
"GANDARUP"
("gandirip"/"kandirip") meaning "fooled into
believing".
It is worth
mentioning here that Lionel Casson writes the following
about the ancient
Greeks [4]: "Neither gold or silver nor anything
at all precious was
to be found in the baggage of the Greeks when they
made their first
appareance in history. They arrived in the peninsula
that was forever
after to be their home some time about 2200 or 2000
B.C., as immigrants
from southern Rusia or even farther east. Their
villages were
collections of dwellings, mud brick huts with the barest
of furnishings.
They buried dead in mere shallow pits with either no
gifts to help them
in the next world or but a few objects of clay."
Evidently they had
noting to offer to the native Pelasgians.
7. The term
THALASSA meaning "sea" in Greek is nothing but an
anagrammatized form
of the Turkic phrase "DOLU SU" meaning "plenty of
water"
(endless water) which, of course, is what a sea is.
8. OLYMPUS: The
Mount OLYMPUS, a mountain in Macedonia, was supposed
to be the mythical
abode of the Greek gods or god-like beings. In
terms of Gods, the
name OLYMPUS is related to the Turkic phrases
"OLUM-aPa-US"
meaning "Creator wise father" and "ÖLÜM aPa US" meaning
"Dead wise
Father". Additionally, the "US" or "OS" suffix is
Turkish
"OGUZ" -
the anciant Turkic Sky-God. From the Greek mythology
associated with the
Mount Olympus and its inhabitants, it is seen that
indeed Gods
associated with the creation of universe and the dead ones
were portrayed as
living on Mount OLYMPUS. It should also be noted
here that in modern
times, OGUZ appears in the modern fictional story
"The Wizard of
OZ".
9. In Turkic
mythology, mountains are sacred. This is evidenced by
the fact that the
Turkish name for mountain is TA or TAU (Dagh) which
is homonym with ATA
- the Turkic name of the Sky-Father God (Gök ATA
Tanri). An example
of a mountain carrying the name TAU is KRAKATAU
(KRAKATOA) located
in the Strait of Sunda, between Java and Sumatra,
Malay Archipelago.
This is actually a volcano whose name can be taken
as Turkic
"KOR-AKUTA" meaning "Fire-Flowing" (Lava-Flowing).
Alternatively, the
name could also be taken as Turkic "KOR-AKA-ATA"
meaning "Fire-Lord-Father"
referring to the Sky-God (Sun).
Alternatively, the
name could be taken as Turkic "KOR-AKA-TA" meaning
"Lord-Fire-Mountain"
or "Great-Fire-Mountain". Of course in Turan
(Central Asia),
there is a whole set of majestic mountains called the
Tengri Daglari -
meaning "Mountains of God". In Turkic mythology,
mountain tops were
closest to the Sky-Father God (ATA). For that
reason the ancient
Tur peoples would hold their annual ceremonies at
the top of high
mountains where they would sacrifice valuable animals
to God.
Celebrations could go on for days. Even where they did not
have mountains,
such as in Mesopotamia and ancient Masar (Egypt), the
ancient Turanians
would build ziggurats and pyramids to emulate the
mountains. The
Eastern Turkistan pyramids and conical cemeterial
structures built
for their ancestors are evidences of this too.
10. KORINTHOS is
the name of a city and the name of a water body
which is a part of
the Ionian Sea penetrating inland. The name
KORINTHOS has two
possible meanings. The first can be defined by
KORINTH-OS from
Turkic phrase " KIRINTI-SU" (Girinti su) meaning "it
is water recessed
into land" referring to an arm of the IONIAN Sea
that extends
eastwards and is presently known as "Corinthian Gulf".
The second possible
can be defined as "KOR-INTH-OS" from Turkic phrase
"KOR HaNTI
OS" (Kor Handi Oguz) meaning "Sun God OS (OGUS) was Lord
Fire". This
again refers to the name of the Sun-God that the ancient
Turanians believed
in. This name is also given to a city (presently
Corinth) in ancient
YUNANISTAN (Greece).
11. We should also
note that the name IONIAN refers to the Turkic
phrase "AY-HAN
Öyan (öylüler)" meaning the "House of AY-HANS" That
is why Turks call
ancient "Greece" by the name "YUNANISTAN"
(Ay-Hanistan)
rather than "Greece". ION is the anagrammatized form of
AY-HAN. The suffix
-IAN is an anagrammatized form of "ÖY + AN" where
ÖY > IA meaning
"house" and suffix -AN is the ancient Turkish
plurality suffix.
Thus, Turkic "ÖYAN" (öyler) meaning "houses" has
been changed into
the "-IAN" suffix that appears at the end of many
names.
Thus neither the
name KORINTHOS nor the name ION are Greek in origin.
They are names
formed from Turkic words or phrases. Even the
so-called Greek
name IO is actually from Turkish "AY-O" phrase meaning
"it is the
moon" which is the ancient Turkic Moon-God (Ay-Tengri,
Ay-Han). It must
particularly be noted that English 1st person
singular personal
pronoun "I" (pronounced as "ay")" is nothing but the
Turkish name
"AY" for the moon - indicating that they also believed in
the ancient
Moon-God (Ay-Han). This information has been suppressed.
12. MUKENAI
(Mucenae or Mycenae) is another place name in ancient
Yunanistan. It is
from the Turkic phrase "MA KUN AI" meaning
"magnificent
Sun and Moon" which is in line with the ancient Turanian
culture of naming
the cities and geagraphical points of importance
after the name of
the trinity sky-God Gök-Tengri. Since ancient
Yunanistan was the
land of the native Turanian Ay-Hans (Ionians), they
named the country
side in the ancient Turkic tradition. Ay-Hans
(IONS) were also
known to be Pelasgian peoples, that is, the native
peoples of the
land. Famed Homer in his Odysseus epic story describes
Plesgians as NOBLE
PELASGIANS. Athens (ATINA) is an Ion (Ay-Han) city
rather than a Greek
city and is intentionally portrayed as a Greek
city. Similarly,
the system of "democracy" is a concept of Ionians
(Ay-Hans) rather
than the so-called "Greeks". This is again a
misrepresentation
of history. Many learned Greeks of present times
admit that the
population of Greece is sixty percent Turkic. This
majority could not
be left over from the Ottoman Turks, but rather
from much earlier
times.
When the
opportunity arose, the ancient Ionians (Ay-Hans, Pelasgians)
of Yunanistan were
forcefully and deceptively Hellenized. Hence,
everything was
Hellenized by changing the names. Even the name HELLEN
comes from Turkic
"ELLI AN" (yelli an) meaning "Windy Sky" or "Wind
Believers"
which was another description of the ancient Sumerian
wind-god ENLIL. In
ancient Turkic culture, God's name was hidden
behind the daily
usage-meanings of the words. All these ancient
Turanian names have
been anagrammatized in order to make them
unrecognizable so
that they could be claimed by the name-changers as
their own words as
if they were developed independently of the Turkic
world. This was a
deliberate act of obliterating the ancient Turkic
civilization. This
kind of obliteration activity was done by the
ancient Greek,
Latin and Semitic groups whenever they had the
opportunity -
including modern times.
13. The term
KUPRESSOS (cypress) (in present Turkish "selvi" agaci).
This slender tall
tree is known to be the tree of the cemeteries. The
latin word
CUPRESSUS is the name of this tree. The dictionary also
defines this Latin
word as "the casket made from cypress tree", i.e.,
Turkish
"tabut, kutu". Let us analyze the etymology of this word:
KUPRESSOS <
"KUP-RESS-OS", in which CUP is from Turkic "KAP" (kap,
agzi kapali veya
açik kap, kutu) meaning "a container, a box with or
without a
cover"; and RESS" must be from Turkish "RESIS" (reysis,
isiksiz, karanlik)
meaning "without sunlight". From the Latin
description of the
name it is clear that this tree was used for making
"caskets"
(tabuts, isiksiz kutu) in ancient times. Thus the name
"cypress"
of this tree ("KUP-RESS-OS") must be from an ancient Turkic
expression that
meant "'tree of lightless box'", that is, the tree
that
"caskets" were made from.
REFERENCES:
[1] G. S. Kirk,
"The nature of Greek Myths", Penguin Books, 1974, p.
267. Following is
written in side page of his book about the author:
"G. S. Kirk is
Emeritus Professor of Greek at Cambridge and a Fellow
of Trinity College;
and was previously a professor at yale, Bristol
and
Cambridge.", p. 267.
[2] Encyclopaedia
Britannica World Languages Dictionary, 1963,
Vol.2, p. 1353.
[3] Encyclopaedia
Britannica World Languages Dictionary, 1963,
Vol.1, p. 22.
[4] Lionel Casson,
"Treasures of the World: The Greek Conguerors",
p. 13.
Polat Kaya
16/01/2003