Re: [hrl_2] Re: Family words
came first for early humans - New Scientist
Dear friends,
Greetings. The word
ABA meaning "father" is a variation of ancient
Turkish APA meaning
"father". In ancient Turkish "Sky-God" (GÖK
TANRI) was also
called "APA TANRI" meaning "father god".
The root word
"AM" meaning "mother" is also the Turkish name for the
genital of all
mothers. Thus, the root words "AM/AMA" meaning
"mother"
is pure Turkish. Additionally "MAMA" meaning "mother" is
also from Turkish
"MEME" meaning mother's "breast" which is the
"mother"
to all children. The name "MAMMALIAN" or "MAMALIAN"
referring to all
milk feeding "mammals" is from the Turkish word
"MEME-LI-EN"
where Turkish infix -LI means "with" and suffix -EN/AN is
the ancient Turkish
plurality suffix making the word to mean "living
beings with
breast". Thus in present day Turkish, the word "MAMALIAN"
would be
"MEMELILER" meaning mamals. Indo-European and Semitic words
using the root
words AMA, MAMA, MEME are unquestionably sourced from
Turkish language.
It is indeed
infantile on the part of those who explain such
words as Turkish
ATA, ANA, APA, AMA, etc, as "child's language".
This so-called
"linguistic" explanation is indeed a silly concoction
inorder to deny the
fact that these words are from Turkish language.
It is a game
designed to put down Turkish. In an ancient Turkish
speaking world,
these words would have been common to many peoples.
Related to these
basic family words please read my paper at URL:
http://www.compmore.net/~tntr/ata_anain_natlangs.html
Best wishes to all,
Polat Kaya
David L wrote:
>
> AB /aba/ means
"father".
> AM /ama/ means
"mother".
> There is a
morphology to those words but I have not been able to
> decipher it
yet. AM is a compound of A and M, the meanings of the
> two parts
gives rise to the definition of "mother"; the same is true
> for AB.
>
> Chidren call
their parents after what the mother expects the child to
> call them, and
that has come down to us from the original language,
> though it has
changed slightly among the various languages. And
> children also
learn from other children in society forms such
> as /ama/ and
/aba/.
>
> Dave
>
> --- In
historical_linguistics_2@yahoogroups.com, "Kamil Kartal"
>
<kkartal@m...> wrote:
> > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996188
> >
> > The
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> >
> >
> > Family
words came first for early humans
> >
> >
> > 09:30 26
July 04
> >
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> >
> > One of a
Neanderthal baby's first words was probably "papa",
> concludes one
of the most comprehensive attempts to date to make out
> what the first
human language was like.
> >
> > Many of
the estimated 6000 languages now spoken share common
> words and meanings,
notably for kin names like "mama" and "papa".
> That has led
some linguists to suggest that these words have been
> carried
through from humans' original proto-language, spoken at least
> 50,000 years
ago.
> >
> > But
without information on exactly how often these words
> occur across
distantly related languages, there has been little
> evidence to
support that claim.
> >
> > What is
more, some words of similar sound and meaning, such
> as the English
"day" and the Spanish "dia", are known to have arisen
> independently.
> >
> > Now
Pierre Bancel and Alain Matthey de l'Etang from the
> Association
for the Study of Linguistics and Prehistoric Anthropology
> in Paris have
found that the word "papa" is present in almost 700 of
> the 1000
languages for which they have complete data on words for
> close family
members.
> >
> >
> > Common
ancestry
> >
> >
> > Those
languages come from all the 14 or so major language
> families. And
the meaning of "papa" is remarkably consistent: in 71
> per cent of
cases it means father or a male relative on the father's
> side.
> >
> >
"There is only one explanation for the consistent meaning of
> the word
'papa': a common ancestry," Bancel says. He presented the
> findings at
the Origins of Language and Psychosis conference in
> Oxford, UK, in
July 2004.
> >
> > But
debate over whether modern languages carry the remnants
> of the
language spoken at the dawn of humanity is likely to continue.
> Don Ringe, a
linguist at the University of Pennsylvania in
> Philadelphia,
says that babies may simply associate the first sound
> they can make
with the first people they see - their parents. That,
> too, would
lead to words like "papa" acquiring similar meaning in
> many languages.
> >
> > Even
Bancel admits that there will never be conclusive
> proof.
"We have no Neanderthals around to ask."