Re: The roots of the term DEMOCRACY are from Turkish, Part-9
You originally wrote me two emails back to back - and I responded to your second email only. In my response to you, I did not hide anything you wrote because your second email was only one sentence long ("thank God,
Additionally, when you responded to my response, you DID discard what I wrote to you. Just below is my first response to you (my writing is in blue) - yet you excluded my writing in your subsequent response (which is further below).
In this one sentence, you are talking politics and it does not make sense either. Evidently you have not even understood what I am talking about. If you identify
yourself, I will respond to your other letter. By the way, what I said in my reference posting is correct!
>thank God, Russia prevented the Ottoman empire from seizing western Europe, otherwise we would all be calling refrigerators today as kallkan-dollap.
Now I see that you are thankful to your God because "
The Greek version of the term REFRIGERATOR is given as REPHRIDZERETOR (Divry's English - Greek and Greek - English Dictionary, 1988, p. 268).
Interestingly, when the Greek word REPHRIDZERETOR is rearranged letter-by-letter as "POZ-EDER-IERTHRR", we find to our surprise that this Greek word is actually made up, by way of anagrammatizing, from the Turkish expression "BUZ
Before finishing, I will say this again: I will not answer your questions and/or accusations in your letters unless you correct your unfriendly attitude AND identify your true identity. If I am going to respond to your allegations and spend time on it, I want to know who I am communicating with.
Dear Polat KayaWhy did you hide my first argument and historical facts in my reply and only leave the last sentence? Isn't this concealment of facts?I am talking about the part showing Ottoman tribes settled into Asia Minor some 2000 years after the word Democracy came to be used in Classical Greece. The last sentence is not meant for political purposes.If you look at it that way, it is your own problem.If Western culture would have been assimilated by Ottoman culture, from any possible, then, military invasion, then many of the words in western language would have been replaced with the Turkish counter-parts. What? If I hypothesize about such an assimilation, I am running into politics???I have nothing against Turkey as of today. And I accept the sovereignty of any country. What I can't stand is the distortion of history that some people make, you including, by using some controversial methods. And such correctness is yet to be proven under other current or even future basis of reference.And by the way, ADAM is a Hebrew word, from the old Testament, and not Turkish, which means the first man created by God, and he, ADAM, consequentially did not have any other people around him. If it has been adapted into Turkish later, then, it is another issue. So when you mention ADAM in your arguments, you should then give credit to Hebraic people also, for the Word Democracy, because there are facts they have been living in Greece some 1000 years BC.This article will soon be discredited!Sincerely,petstamo --- In Polat_Kaya@yahoogroups.com, "Kamil KARTAL" <allingus@...> wrote:--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Polat Kaya <tntr@C...> wrote:"ARACHNE" ("ÖRÜNCEH"), "DEMOCRACY" Part-9: (Continued from Part-8)DEMOCRACY is defined as the system of governing people by the people,and according to Plato's definition, the ruling is done by many butrequires no virtue for those who rule. By way of majority election,anyone and his/her associated group can be given the authority to rulethe people. The term DEMOCRACY is indicated to be from Greek "demokratia" whichitself is from Greek "demos" meaning "the people" plus "kratein" torule or "kratos" or authority.  The Greek term DEMOKRATIA, when decrypted letter-by-letter as"ODEM-ITARA-K" or "ADAM-ITORE-K" and with k/c translation, is ananagram of Turkish expression "ADAM ITARACu" (adam idareci) meaning"Men (people) are the ruler". This is exactly the definitionattributed to the concept of so-called Greek "DEMOKRATIA". The Turkishword "ADAM" means "man" and "IDARACU" means "one who rules", "theruler", "the manager or the administrator". Thus it is clear that the word "DEMOS" is not Greek in origin. On thecontrary it is from Turkish root word "ADAM" meaning "man".a) The Greek term "DEMOS", when shown as "DEM OS", is an anagram ofthe Turkish expression "aDAM
" meaning "wise man". "Man" (adam) USmakes up the people. b) Additionally the term "DEMOS" in its shown form is an anagram ofthe Turkish expression "aDAMUS" (ADAMUZ) meaning "we are men" or "weare the people". Similarly, the Greek term "KRATOS" meaning "authority", which wedescribed earlier under PLUTOCRACY, was found to be the anagram ofTurkish words:a) "KURUShTU" meaning "it is money".b) "KuRUCuTU" (kurucudu) meaning "he is the founder". Thus again the Greek term "DEMOKRATIA" defined as being from "DEMOS +KRATOS" is in fact from Turkish: "ADAM KURUSHTU" or "KURUSH ADAMTU" meaning "man is golden" (i.e., valuable man) or "it is the rich man". It could also be from "ADAM US KURUCUTU" meaning "wise man (people)is the founder". By these Turkic definitions, the term "DEMOKRATIA" is a politicalsystem where "people establish it and protect it". The man appearingat the top can be anyone with any qualities. These definitions aretotally in line with the definition of "democracy". From this analysis, we find so much exact correspondence between these"Greek" terms and the Turkic expressions that come up after they aredecrypted that one is forced to question the reason why suchcorrespondences are taking place. The answer is that when Greeks werecoining these so-called "Greek" terms, Turkish was there and it wasused as the source language from which these terms were manufactured. It is obvious that Greek linguists, as usual, took all the necessaryTurkish expressions, anagrammatized them and came up with the term"DEMOKRATIA" while retaining the original Turkish meanings of theexpressions. Thus, it is clear that the simple technique of"anagrammatizing" is a fantastic tool of "language" building. All oneneeds to do is to take Turkish language expressions, shuffle theletters and/or syllables of the expression, rearrange them in a wordsuitable for the purpose, and make sure that new word does notresemble the original Turkish text. Thus one has words for anylanguage he/she wants. Evidently, this was done by specially trainedpeople for all the so-called Indo-European and Semitic languages.The English term DEMOCRACY, when decrypted as "ADEM CROCY", where Y isreally a U, is an anagram of Turkish expression "ADAM iCRACU" meaning"man is the practicer", "man is the executer" or "man is the manager".The Turkish term "ICRA" is labelled as an Arabic "term", yet it hasbeen very widely used in Ottoman Turkish. There must be a logicalreason for this shared usage of the "Arabic" language other than the"Islamic" Religion. In the system of democracy, it also may mean that the electing peopledo not really know what they are choosing, In this political rulingsystem, the electors most often than not follow the crowd and/or thepropaganda made by the contenders without knowing much about thecandidates. In a way, it is a system in which "the blind leads the blind".The result may turn out to be within the expectations of the electorsor beyond, that is, the elected official could be "a glowing man" or"a blind man". This may be explained as follows: "DEMOKRATIA", whenrearranged as "KOR ADEM ATI" and DEMOCRACY, when rearranged as "CORADEMCY", where C is Turkic K, become an anagram of Turkish "KOR/KÖRADAM ADI" and "KOR/KÖR ADEMCU" (kor veya kör adamcu) respectivelymeaning that the elected ruler may be a "FIRE man" (i.e., a ShiningStar) or a "BLIND man" (i.e., a "lame duck") as long as he/she waselected by the majority .Of course, the Turkish termes "KOR" and "KÖR" were two important theadjectives used to describe the ancient Turanian sky-god OGUZ who wasregarded as having a "KOR" (fire-eye, i.e., Sun) and hence, the"KÖR/GÖR" (seeing) eye, and a "KÖR" (blind-eye, i.e., Moon) eye.After explaining the meanings that define the names of "demoktratia"and "democracy", there are two more aspects that the Greek religiousanagrammatisers must have wanted to impress on these words in the formof . "KRATOS" and "CRACY". The term "CRACY" is an anagram of the Turkish name "KARACU" (KARACI)meaning "wanderer, gypsy". The name "GREEK" is said to be from Greekterm "GRAIKOS"  . But "GRAIKOS" is an anagram of Turkishexpression "GARA AI GÖZ" meaning "Black Moon Eye" indicating that theyare "black moon" believers just like the other wanderers of ancientArabistan. The Latin name for "Greek" was "GRAECUS"  which isagain an anagram of Turkish expressions: a) "GARACU" meaning "wanderer, gypsy", b) "GARA AYCU" meaning "black moon believer", c) "GARA AY GÖZ" meaning "black moon eye", and d) "GARA OGUZ" referring to the "black" aspect of the ancient TuranianSky God Oguz.Hence, the Latin name "GRAECUS" is the same as the Greek "GRAIKOS".The term "black moon eye" refers to the black Moon deity known as the"blind eye" ("ULU KÖR GÖZ" anagrammatized into Greek "LYCURGUS") ofthe ancient Turanian Sky-Father-God's left "eye" which was the "Moon".The Sky-God's right-eye was the "Sun". Additionally Greeks are also known by the name "ELLEN" which is ananagram of Turkish expression "yELLi-hEN" (Yelli Han) meaning"Windy-Lord" or "YEL-hAN" meaning "Wind Lord" again indicating thatthey were also believers of the "wind god" like other wanderers. Thusthey were "wanderers" before they became settled in what is presentlyknown as " " which they took from the native Turanians. Thus the Greeks, for the above defined political systems which are Greecesupposedly defined by the ancient Greeks as if they were all their owninvented concepts, put their name "KARACU" as a stamp on them in theform "CRACY" or "KRATIA" endings. These endings identify the Greekswith these systems while obliterating the Turkic origins of theirdefinitions altogether.The second aspect of this ending is a religious one. The ancient"wanderers" believed in "KRONUS" - an anagram of Turkish expression"KARA-HAN US" meaning "Wise Black Lord" and/or "We are Black Lordbelievers". The term "KRATOS" also represents this belief in "BLACK"from Turkish "KARATU" meaning "it is black", or, "KARACUTU" meaning"it is black believer". In this context, "KRATOS" is also an anagramof Turkish expression "KARA ATA OS" (Kara Ata Oguz) meaning "BlackFather Oguz" referring to the "black aspect" of the ancient Turaniantrinity sky-god OGUZ where "SKY-GOD-OGUZ" has a duality nature,i.e.,"AK-HAN OGUZ" (White Lord-Oguz) represented by the sun, light,good, justice, fairness, tolerance, goodwill and general uprightbehaviour; and "KARA-HAN OGUZ" (Black Lord Oguz) represented by thelack of these. Together with the name OGUZ is also the term "AGUZ" meaning "mouth"and "language, the word". In this context, the human "language" canbe in the form of "AK AGUZ", that is, "good, well wishing, praising,tolerating and other similar language"; while "KARA AGUZ", would be"ill wishing, intolerant, unfair, cursing, putdown, etc. language". Thus with the ending "KRATIA" in "DEMOKRATIA" which is also an anagramof Turkish phrase "ADAM KARADI" meaning "man is believer of "black",the "Religion of Black" is also identified". Hence, when "democracy"is established in an area, the channels allowing the spread of the"religion of black" is also established there under the guise of"democracy". Evidently, those ancient cabalist religous-linguists were extremelyefficient in their manipulation of the Turkish language for political,economic and social purposes.>From evidences found in ancient "Greek" history, it is most likelythat it was the Ionians (Ay-Hans) rather than the "Greeks" that cameup with the idea of a democratic political system as they were muchmore tolerant native peoples of ancient Yunanistan ( ) than the GreeceGreeks were. After the Greeks took over Ionians and assimilated them,their culture was also taken over by the Greeks. It seems that amongthe wanderers of the ancient past, it was the norm to live and minglewith the ancient Turanians, all the while waiting for an opportunetime to take over, suppress, assimilate and obliterate the conqueredhost in the process usurping everything that belonged to the host. REFERENCES: Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947, p. 267. Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947, p. 437. Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947, p. 437.Best wishes to all,Polat KayaJanuary 04, 2004