Re: [bcn2004] Dialog Loga- Polat Kaya-2: Zaratushtra
Hi. I am glad that you questioned my "re-arrangements" by saying that: "While the etymological studies of ‘Zaratushtra’ by Polat Kaya and V.Raghavan are to be appreciated, but I feel very uncomfortable where so many arbitrary ‘re-arrangement ‘ of the letters are brought in make it appear as a complex word belonging to Turkish language."
First of all, my re-arrangements are not arbitrary at all. On the contrary, they are done in accordance with the given definition of the word. The given meaning of the so-called Indo-European word is what provides me the guidance for decoding that word. Even then it is not an easy task to do. Yet I have been demonstrating for years how Greek, Latin, English, French, Italian, Semitic, etc. words are made up from Turkish words and phrases. The complex word supposedly belonging to an Indo-European language appears complex because that word has been made up from a Turkish expression involving two or more Turkish words and suffixes. Otherwise creating such complex looking words of Indo-European languages from nothing, that is, without having a model, is a virtual impossibility. To create such words from nothing, as part of a language, would take an extremely long time for any linguist. In fact after a while they would get lost in what they are doing. Any language has to be coordinated within itself. However if they have a model language to use and follow, things become infinitely easier when creating new words.
Let me demonstrate what I mean. As an example, there is the so-called "French" word BIBLIOTEQUE meaning "library". This word is also in the form of BIBLIOTECA in Italian. A "library" concept can be met in a number of ways in Turkish. First of all, the concept of "biblioteque" is called "KITAB EVI" meaning "house of books", or "KITABLIK" meaning "place where there are books", or "BOL KITAB EVI" meaning" house where there are plenty of books", or "KITAB VE BILGI YERI" meaning "place of books and knowledge", or "BILGI YERI" meaning "place where there is knowledge, etc.. These are all Turkish phrases describing a "library" concept in a variety of ways. Another Turkish expression would be "BITIK BUL OYI" meaning "House where one finds books" or "BIL BITIK OYU" meaning "knowledge and book house". These again describe the concept of "library".
The Turkish suffix -LIK when added to a name indicates a "place where there are things represented by that name", such as: "KITABLIK" = "where there are books", ORMANLIK = "where there are forests", DAGLIK = "where there are mountains", SULUK = "where there is water", etc. , BIL, BILGI (= knowledge), BOL (= plenty), "BUL (= find), EVI (= the house), OYI (= the house).
With this knowledge, we can now examine and rearrange the French term "BIBLIOTEQUE" letter-by-letter as in the form of:
1. "QITOBLIB-EUE" which is very much the Turkish expression "KITABLIK + EVI" meaning "house of books", where second Turkish letter "K" has been replaced with letter "B". From this we can see that Turkish word "KITABLIK" with the word "EVI" has been restructured into this so-called French word "BIBLIOTEQUE". In this expression Turkish "KITAB" means "book". This word is supposedly from Arabic language in the eyes of the linguists. In actuality, it has been restructured into Arabic from the older Turkish word "BITIK" meaning "book". Turkish "EVI" means "the house".
2. We can also rearrange this French word letter-by-letter as "BIL-QITOB-EUE", where U=V=Y, which is the Turkish expression "BIL KITAB EVI" meaning "knowledge and Book house". A library or a BIBLIOTEQUE is such a place.
3. We can also rearrange this French word letter-by-letter as "BOL-QITEB-EUI", where U=V=Y, which is again the Turkish expression "BOL KITAB EVI" meaning "house where there are plenty of books". A library or a BIBLIOTEQUE is such a place.
4. Additionally we can rearrange this French word letter-by-letter as "BOL-BITIQ-EUE" which is again the Turkish expression "BOL BITIK EVI" meaning "house where there are plenty of books". In this expression Turkish "BITIK" means "book".
Thus from all this it is seen that someone intentionally altered any one of these Turkish expressions to come up with a word in the form "BIBLIOTEQUE' or "BIBLIOTECA". Only the person who did the "alteration" (restructuring, anagrammatizing, encryption) knows exactly what he used. He left behind a convoluted word structure and a meaning attributed to it representing the meaning of the original Turkish text he used. On the other side of the coin, I come along some very long time later and discover what has been done. Then I try to reach the original Turkish form by way of decrypting the encrypted text. Thus my restructuring represents that act. I, as a decoder, can know that someone used at least one of these Turkish expressions to come up with the word "BIBLIOTEQUE".
Now let us take a look at the Italian version of this word. The Italian term BIBLIOTECA, when rearranged letter-by-letter as "BOL-CITAB-EI", it is the Turkish expression "BOL KITAB EVI" or "BOl KITAB OYI" meaning "House of plenty books".
Similarly the English word "LIBRARY, when rearranged as "BILR-YAR" is a restructured and disguised form of the Turkish expression "BILIR YER" ("BILGI YERI") meaning "place of knowing" or "place of knowledge". In this restructuring Turkish "BILGI" has been replaced with Tr. "BILIR" both of which meaning " knowledge". This Turkish expression is again a correct description of the concept of "library". Library is a place where one finds knowledge. That is why people use libraries as "research" tool to find the knowledge that they are looking for.
All of this tells us that I am correct in my decipherment of these words and the source of these Indo-European words are in Turkish, not in Greek, not in Latin nor in Sanskrit. In other words, as present day linguists, we have all been taken for an unimaginable ride by the Aryan priest-linguists of past ages.
Now we can ask the following question: If these Indo-European languages were developed independently of Turkish, there would be almost zero probability that we would find such correspondence between these Indo-European words and their Turkish counterparts. The only way that one can find such correspondences would be due to the fact that the Aryan linguists of ancient past (most likely at present also) took the Turkish texts and restructured them into such complex looking Indo-European words. Without the Turkish model, the priest linguists could not have come up with these complex looking words. But of course they retained the original meaning of the Turkish text that they used. In the whole process the resulting words are so well camouflaged that it is no longer "Turkish".
Now, I can understand you being uncomfortable with my "re-arranging" of given words, because, first of all, you do not know, or you have not understood well, what I have been saying all along how the Turkish language was anagrammatized into Indo-European languages. Evidently you have not yet accepted my discovery of the fact that Indo-European languages were manufactured from Turkish.
Secondly, linguists falsely believe that what they see in terms of words are truthful representation of reality. In fact they are not. We speak, for example, the English language, but most people do not know how that language was made up and what its source was. Of course in the Western view, the world ends in the ancient Greek, Latin and Jewish world. For them, the ancient Turanian Turkic world never existed. Even in the cover pages of their religious books, it is written: "This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah [YHWH] has said: ' . . . Here I am creating new heavens and earth; and the former things will not be called to mind, neither will they come up into the hearth.'" Those forbidden "former things" were Turanian and Turkic civilization.
Of course, speaking a language is one thing, knowing how it has been made up is something else. I have been saying for many years how the so-called Indo-European and Semitic languages have been manufactured from Turkish. For many people it is a difficult thing to accept and understandably so because all of us have been raised from a very young age onwards to belive that what is written in the dictionary is the truth. We have all been taught over and over again that the source of human civilization is from Greek, Latin and Jewish sources. In that portrayal, the name TUR, TURK, TURAN have all been deliberately supressed. Even the name TUR has even been supressed from the readings of the Sumerian texts. It is there but they do not want to tell us about it.
Thirdly, it is most likely that you and many other linguists do not know Turkish and are not familiar with Turkish culture. In ancient times, as said and noted in GENESIS 11-1, "All the earth continued to be of one language and of one set of words". That unnamed "one language" was the TURKISH language. Unquestionably, the ancient Aryans (Arayans), that is, the wandering peoples, spoke Turkish and knew Turkish. They were keen on religious affairs and wanted to use religion for their own benefit and purposes. However, in order to do that they wanted to have a language or languages that they could use without others understanding what they were saying or doing. It must have been a very profitable business to have a religion or cult. Additionally they wanted to become a "nation" by having a language of their own. That they did by anagrammatizing Turkish words and expression to come up with words for their religious service purposes. They pretended as being "religious" people, and hence appeared as ones who appeared to know more than others. With their pretentions, they impressed other people and that led them to acquire wealth and prosperity and thus control of others. Thus their newly created languages restructured from Turkish became the language of their religious practices.
Additionally, if two languages such as Turkish versus any one of the Indo-European languages were developed separately and totally independently from each other, as we are all led to believe, then finding a Turkish word or expression having the same meaning attributed to the given Indo-European word has almost zero probability unless the word being analysed was manufactured from a Turkish text having the same or similar meaning.
The ancient Turanian trinity Sky-God religion used one language for its spread - and that was Turkish. The Turkish language defined and described all aspects of of this ancient religion by words that took thousands of years to develop and generate in Turkish. Yet this unique religion and its language Turkish were subject to erosion and complete obliteration by alien groups. Probably it was the Akkadians who first tried to make a language for themselves from the Turko-Sumerian language by altering the structures of the words and phrases. Once it was succcessfully applied by the wandering Akkadians, all other groups also adopted the same technique and made languages for themselves. Having a religion and a language that promotes that religion is of extreme political, economic and military importance for people. Language and religion collect people around each other and there is safety in multitude. These notions are the main building blocks of becoming a nation. Hence many religions were developed from the ancient Turanian OGUZ/AGUZ religion, and similarly, new languages were developed from ancient Turkish language. These new languages sounded as different languages, yet they also appeared to be from one "family". This was achieved because they were collectively manufactured from Turkish by the Aryan priest-linguists.
In the case of ZARATUSHTRA, its nature is also as I presented in my paper. After all ZARATUSHTRA religion is a "Fire" worshipping religion and the name ZARATUSHTRA is composed with the Turkish words "Od, ATASH" meaning "fire" and Turkish words "AZ-ER" (AS-ER) meaning "One Man" or "Peerless Man". Hence there is nothing new in ZARATUSHTRA because the much older Turanian Az-Er, Sun and Moon worshipping religion was already using these word in their religious tenets. The Sun (Tr. GUN) which is the most magnificent ONE-FIRE that has been providing energy and life to our solar system for billions of years. Thus there is nothing more important in our solar system to worship than the Sun itself. Of course ancient Turanian peoples not only worshipped the Sun but also worshipped a universal creator sky-God known by the Turkish names, TANRU, TANRI, TENGRI, HAN-O, BIR-O, TEK-O, AS-ER-O, O-MEN, AMEN, OD-AN, OD-HAN, and many more names.
I hope this will put you at ease when I present words of the "Indo-European" languages and explain them in Turkish by re-arranging them letter-by-letter. As I stated above, my rearrangement (decoding) of IE words is not arbitrary. The correspondences that I get from decoded and analyzed IE words with their Turkish counterparts are unquestionable evidence for what I am saying.
Please find below my further response to your posting as interfaced with your writing.
K. Loganathan wrote:
Dialog Loga- Polat Kaya-2: Zaratushtra
While the etymological studies of ‘Zaratushtra’ by Polat Kaya and V.Raghavan are to be appreciated, but I feel very uncomfortable where so many arbitrary ‘re-arrangement ‘ of the letters are brought in make it appear as a complex word belonging to Turkish language. I am of the view that Turkish language is an evolute of Sumerian and which is essentially Archaic Tamil. Almost every word and grammatical features of Sumerian links it up with Archaic Tamil something that I believe is quite impossible with Turkish or Sanskrit.
So let me come to the etymological study of this important word and which , I believe is derived from ROOTS that are SumeroTamil. We can see this by taking this word as a compound “ zar-a-tu-si-tila” and transformed as ‘zaratushtra’ through the deletion of some vowels and the change l > r etc.. All these root words are available in Sumerian with meanings consistent with the overall meaning of this word .
Zara Su. sar, asar
The ‘zara’ appears to be a transform of Su. sar-a and which also occurs as ‘a-sar’ and which exists in Ta. aasaan : teacher, and in Sk as acarya . Here ‘a-“ is a referential and hence pronominal “that , he ‘ etc It can also indicate greatness as Su. a-nir ( an enormous amount of water or tears)
Polat Kaya: The term ASAR refers to a personified Sky-God imagined in the form of "Man", i.e., Turkish "ER" meaning "man, human being, hero, soldier, husband". ASAR, in the form "AS ER" and "AZ ER" is a Turkish word describing the Sky-god as it was customary to do most everything in the name of God in those days. Similarly, it is an adjective describing a person carrying the Turkish qualification as a lord, noble person, higly esteemed man. ZARATUSHTRA is a religious name and describes a religion which is designed around the name of God. Thus, The term ASAR, in the form of Turkish "AS ER" or "AZ ER" means "ONE Man" and "Peerless Man" referring to the concept of Sky-God, which is, in the ancient Turanian religious understanding, "ONE" and "alone", that is, "BIR" and "TEK" in Turkish. Many ancient kings used this Turkish expression in their titles to give themselves the status of "God" and also to claim themselves as being distinct and distinguished.
Additionally, the name in the form of "SU-ER" would refer to a personification of "waters" as inancient Turkish "Su-Han" or "Deniz-Han" and in Turko-Sumerian "EN-ZU" or "ZU-EN" (SU-HAN) . Similarly, name "As-Er" in the form "US-ER" ("bilgemish" as appears in the name "Bilgamesh" and "Agilgamesh" altered into "Gilgamesh") means "Wise Man". Thus all of these are Turkish in origine.
Now we have this ‘sar’ occurring as part of “dub-sar’ , the teacher but lit. the reader (sar) of the tablet (dub), This is related to Ta. saaR.u : to tell, announce, relate etc and which has given us Ta. saattan : a great teacher and which exists in Sk as “sastry’ and so forth. The Ta. saattiram’, literary treatises (>Sk sastra) is also related to this. Thus such a highly sophisticated concept related to literature, the art of writing and reading must have evolved only in culture that was immensely literary such as the Sumerians
Polat Kaya: "sar" in Sumerian "dub-sar" is very
much related to Turkish "YAZAR" meaning "writer", and also
to Turkish "BASAR" meaning "he presses". Sumerian
writers 'pressed their writing stencils into soft clay. Even the English
word "PRESS" is from Turkish "BASAR". In Turkish
"printing" is "BASMA". It seems that this is also
present in the Tamil word "SAARU", which when rearranged as
"UASAR" where U =Y, becomes Turkish "yasar" (yazar) meaning
"writer". The Sk. word "SASTRA meaning "literary
treatise", when rearranged as "SASTAR", is related to
Turkish "SÖSTÜR" meaning "it is speech, it is talk.",
"SESTIR" meaning "it is voice".
A-Sar and the Asaan
Now the following very important lines from Temple Hymn 10 ( c. 2300 BC) which also links with the Egyptian “Asar’ will be relevant here.
Temple Hymn 10
Polat Kaya: I had already indicated that ASAR, ASER, OSIR were all related and were Turkish in my previous writing.
eden muru sa-ta me su-ti ( plain (with) heavy clouds, taking the me’s from its midst)
Ta. eetil muru saaytta mey cooti ( Plain that is brilliant and in the interior of which burns the true Radiance)
Polat Kaya: these two expressions do not seem to be equivalent both in meaning and in structure.
nun-zu nun-kal-kal (d)asar-lu-hi lu-kal-kal ( Your prince is the highly esteemed prince, Assaluhi, the higly esteemed one)
Ta. nun-ju nun-kal-kal asar-lu-hi lu-kal-kal ( Your Lord is a very precious lord, Asarluhi, the person who is very precious or Your Lord is highly learned, Asarluhi, the person very highly learned))
Polat Kaya: Turkish- Sumerian "asar"(as-er, az-er) as appears in the Su. "asar-lu-hi" gives the meaning of "very precious" or "lordship" quality to the person carrying that names.
The Dingir (deva) Asar-lu-hi who is permanently there as the underlying Power is ‘mey sooti’ (< me su-ti) the most authentic Light and which emerges from 'eden muru” (the field of Pure Brilliance, the ParaSakti) and from which we see the origin of the name Muruka - it is the deity that emerges as the ‘mey sooti’ from this ‘eden muru”, the Light that establishes the TRUTH by destroying the ni-sa, the evils and falsities.
Polat Kaya: Su. DINGIR and Turkish "TENGIR" are one and the same. DEVA is Turkish "DEV O" meaning "He is giant". God concept refers to "greatness" which is equivalent to "DEVA" (DEV O) concept.
Now we can link this up with the Wedges that appeared 30, 000 years ago among the S. Africans and hence birth of Symbolic Power of mankind. It is interesting that the Oldest Language in the world still survives also in S. Africa.
Polat Kaya: Turkish, which has been used by the Indo-European
languages as a model and source language that was restructured by Indo-Arayans,
is probably the oldest language - as the Sumerian and ancient Masar languages
This Wedge is clearly the Vel of Muruka and we can see that it is has been growing in SIZE and bursting out into a frenzy of building huge Pyramidal Structures around perhaps 12,000 years ago. The immense size of the pyramids erected perhaps indicates a mental CLOSENESS of the metaphysical Pyramid, the close being large. It is this which when became even closer became the Gopurams filled with the deities in a hierarchical order.
Polat Kaya: Pyramids, Kurgans, Zigurrats are ancient Turanian structures. Central Asia, particularly Eastern Turkistan have many tombs made in the form of pyramids and conic hills. Their ages have not even been determined yet because of the restrictions put by the present ruling country. They are all suppressed. And by the way, what exactly would a metaphysical Pyramid be?
Thus Muruka, Asarluhi is the first apperance of the DIVINE that brought also civilization as such among human beings. But Asarluhi is only a phenomenal appearance, the like the ray of the sun, the SUN being different, perhaps the Asar-alim-nunna as below:
Polat Kaya: The name MARUKA sounds very much like the Turkish "MOR AKA" (MOR AGA) meaning "Purple Lord" referring to the SUN. The Sun in human life has always been "DIVINE" which is from Turkish "DEV AN/HAN" meaning "the giant of sky" and "the Giant Lord of Sky". Thus again Turkish is present in all of these. Turkish is the first language used to describe the God concept in terms of AS-AR (AS-ER, AZ-ER) words..
(d) asar-alim-nun-na dumu-abzu-ke ( Asaralimnunna , the son of the Abzu)
Ta. (d) asar-aalim-nunna tamu appusukke
Here Asar-alim-nunna is either Asarluhi or the SOURCE itself and hence Siva and whose SON is Asarluhi. This source of the Brilliance of the phenomenal world being described as the son, dumu, has had wide historical repercussions. Later we see that mighty kings and messiahs also claim the same title by equating self with this Asarluhi so that the claim “Son of God” comes to have special powers - it serves to claim special authority on metaphysical matters.
The Pharaohs who equated themselves with Asar seems to belong to this stage of metaphysical development of mankind, the DIVINITY of the kingly with claims of sameness with Asarluhi.
Polat Kaya: The founders of the ancient state of Masar/Misir falsely replaced by the name "EGYPT" meaning "gypsy" to suppress their Turanian Turkish origin, were Turanian Turkish speaking peoples. ASAR (S-ER, US-ER) was part of their Turanian language. Hence, it is natural that they had this word in their language.
Now in Tamil we have the words “Asaan” (> Asaar) as (Naan maRai muRRiya AtaGkooddu Asaan) (the Asaan of AtaGkoodu well educated in the scriptures (Vedas?) in Tolkaappiyam itself. This is the root of Ta. Aaciriyar and SK Acarya and so forth. This may also be the root of Ta. Asaaram, the rules of right conduct and we have a book Asaarak Koovai in Tamil (c. 3rd cent AD?)
Polat Kaya: Your Tamil expression "AtaGkooddu Asaan" sounds very much like a restructured Turkish expression "ATA GOK OD'DU AS HAN" meaning "Father is One Lord Sky Fire" where Turkish ATA is "father", GOK is "sky", OD is "fire", DU is the verbal suffix meaning "is", or "it is", AS means "one and peerless" and HAN means "lord". The use of ASAR for this description of the Sun and the Sky-God is very correct use of Turkish "ASAR" (AS ER).
Tamil "Aaciriyar" when restructured as "ACAYAR IRI" sounds very much like the restructured form of Turkish "OKUYOR ERI" meaning "teaching man" which is a "teacher' and a "learner" as well as the "student". Similarly Sk. "Acarya" meaning "teacher" is very much a restructured form of Turkish "OKUYOR" meaning "teacher' as well as "student".
It appears that from about the time of Tol (c. 3r cent BC) the word “Asar” has come to mean a Spiritual Guide, a teacher those who are well read in the scriptures and hence capable of TEACHING the right way to live for the commoners.
Now another interesting term related to this is Tamil ‘arasan’, king and which exists as ‘araiyan’ also. In Kannada it exists as Raya and in Sk as Raja. It appears to me that ‘Asar-an” has become Arasan through metathesis and may go back to the time when pharaohs identified themselves with Asar (Re).
This it appears that at one time the Kings were both the rulers as well as the spiritual teachers i.e. the priest-king and that only about the time of Tol that these functions were split perhaps within the royal family. Perhaps it is also the case that the Spiritual Teachers of the Royal family were the AntaNar of the Dravidian folks and for whom, as mentioned in Tol , kingship was NOT denied.
Polat Kaya: Again the term "AntaNar" would be from Turkish "HAN ATA NAR" meaning "Lord Father Fire" which again refers to the Sun. These are all different expressions of Turkish referring to the Sun as well as to the Royal family. In this text, Turkish "NAR" means "red hot fire" and also "pomgranate". In all of these cases the source is Turkish.
Even the name POMEGRANATE is made up form a Turkish expression: when this name is rearranged letter-by-letter POMEGRANATE "ATE-NAR-MEGPO" where letter "P" is a replacement for original letter "V", the name POMEGRANATE is found as a restructured and disguised form of the Turkish expression "ADI NAR MEYVA" meaning "its name is 'pomegranate' fruit". Thus it is in perfect Turkish definition. Thus the fruit NAR has nothing to do with the "apple" family of fruits as they would like us to believe through their false etymology given in dictionaries.
IlaGko AdikaL of Cilambu may be a quite example of this. He was the brother Ceran CeGkkittuivan but relinquished his rights in favour of his brother and chose the scholarly life for himself.
All these occurrences suggest that Zar-a is a variant of Su sar-a with the meaning ‘ mystical readings, utterances , announcements‘ and the person who does all these and because of which he is a great teacher etc i.e. Ta. saasaan
Polat Kaya: I maintain the view that ZARA as it appears in the name ZARATUSHTRA, is the Turkish word "AZ-ER" as I have explained in my paper and also above.
‘tu-si’ and Su, tu, du, dug etc
Now in ‘tu-si” the ‘si’ is of wide occurrence in Sumerian with a wide range of meanings of which that of ‘ bright, beautiful, illuminating’ etc may be relevant here. The Su. tu is another variant of the very ancient Su. du, dug ( to sing , utter, to recite ) . The Su. du-du exists in Tamil as “tuti” (praise, worship) and Sk as “stuti”
The following occurrence of Su. tu taken from Old Babylonian Incantation Texts may be relevant here.
230 tu mu-un-na -ab-sum-mu-ta (When I deliver the spell)
231. [.........] x-ta si ba [x x '-ta ( ..............)
232. tu en e-nu-ru ( Enuru incantation)
The word “tu’ as a verb means ‘to deliver a spell’ or what is the same ‘to chant. Recite, sing “ etc and as noun it means‘incantation’
Thus ‘tu-si’ can be taken to mean “incantations that are illuminating”
Su. tila and Tra
Now we come to ‘tra’ in the compound ‘“ zar-a-tu-si-tila” and which also occurs in a wide range words in Tantrism such ‘tan-tra’‘man-tra’ ‘yan=tra’ etc. Now this can be related to Su. ti, til and which means ‘to exist, to live’ etc and which is retained in Ta. ti.ti ( > Sk stiti) , sustenance, persistence etc.
Assuming the most appropriate meaning here as “ to exist’ then we can see the meaning of ‘ zar-a-tu-si-tila’ and hence Zaratustra as the Great Teacher ( a-sar> sar-a = zar-a) who brought forth illuminating verses(or chants) for excellent living (tila> tra) or longevity
It appears to me that among many other possibilities even by keeping to word as it is and hence avoiding undue distortions, this perhaps the best possibility.
Dear Loganathan, you have provided good information in response to my original paper and I thank you for your contribution. Ideas lead each other to better understanding of the unknown.
Best wishes to you and all,
2. About the names "ZARATUSHTRA", "ZOROASTER" and "ZOROASTRIAN"
The other name associated with the name AVESTA is the name "ZARATHUSTRA" or by another name "ZOROASTER" the Prophet who is said to have written it. It is said that His identity is not "known". The name "ZARATHUSTRA" is also a carefully composed name using Turkish expressions in its structure such that it has multiple meanings. I will hilite a few of them:
a) "ZARATHUSTRA", when rearranged letter-by-letter as "AZR-ATASHTUR", is the restructured form of Turkish _expression "AZER ATASHTUR" (ASER ATASHTUR) meaning "The Peerless-Man is Fire" referring to the ancient Turanian Sky-Father-God as "FIRE". The Sky Father God's seeing and working "eye" being the sun (i.e., a giant "fire") verifies this. If an entity"s "eye" is "fire", then the whole entity is also "fire". In ancient Turanian mythology, the sky was perceived as a giant dome (Tr. DAM) where the stars corresponded to light coming from holes in the dome and it was thought that the other side of the dome, where the Sky God resided, was all fire.
It is known that "fire" was the 'logo" or "icon" of the "ZARATHUSTRA" religion. Of course they were not worshipping the fire itself but rather what it represented, which was the celestial "fire" of the Sun (Tr. Kün) in the sky. And this was sourced from the much older Turanian Sky God religion that worshipped the Sun.
Here we must note that the Turkish name "AZER" also appears as "ASER, OSER, OSIR" in the ancient Tur/Turk Masar (falsely called "Egypt") language. The names of the founding fathers of ancient Tur/Turk Masar (Misir) are all distorted Turkish names contrary to all denials and misrepresentations by "history". Additionally, the name AZER is also in the name of AZERBAIJAN which is composed after the name of the ancient Turkish name of the Sky-God. Similarly the name "ASER" is also embedded in the ancient name "MASAR / MISIR". The name "ASER" also appears as "AESIR" in the so-called Nordic languages and as "OSIRIS" in Greek. The source for all of these is Turkish.
The worship of Sun (Tr. Kün), which is a peerless fire, is the most ancient Turanian tradition in the form of "Gün Tanri". By some secretive cultic movements, the Aryan priests in Iran killed that very ancient Turanian tradition of Sun worshipping and replaced it with "Moon" worshipping. Now the Moon cannot really replace the power and creativity of the sun but it was symbolically crowned as the new Sky Deity. Due to political, military and economic reasons, the later religions put the Moon in front of the Sun-God to symbolically dethrone the very ancient Turanian Sun God. It must be understood that the newer religions have not created anything new. They have simply repackaged the canons (Tr. KANUN and TORE) and the tenets of the ancient Turanian (so-called Pagan) Sky God OGUZ religion with restructured and disguised deity names and concepts.
b) "ZARATHUSTRA", when rearranged letter-by-letter as "AZ-TUR-AHATAR", is the restructured form of the Turkish _expression "AZ TUR AGATUR" meaning "He is the Peerless Lord TUR" which again refers to ancient Turanian Sky-God "TUR". This is the name that has been suppressed in the readings of the Sumerian inscriptions. This is the name that is embedded in the name "TURKISH" and gives its name to "Turkish" language and people. In Turkish all definitions end with the suffix "TUR".
c) "ZARATHUSTRA", when rearranged letter-by-letter as "AZRH-ATA-AUSTR", where letter H has multiple identities which is I in this case, is the restructured form of the Turkish _expression "AZERI-ATA-AUSTUR" meaning "AZERI-ATA-AGUZTUR" meaning "AZERI is the Father language" indicating the Azeri dialect of OGUZ and TUR language was the father language in Avesta. In the story of Avesta, the name of "Azerbaijan" is given as a yazad "Ataro-patakan" and is prominent.
d) In addition to these revelations, we get some further revelations from the name "ZOROASTER". When "ZOROASTER" is rearranged letter-by-letter as "AZER-OOSTER" or "ASER OOZTER", it is the Turkish _expression "AZER OGUZTUR" meaning "Peerless-Man (or One-Man) is Oguz" referring to the ancient Turanian Sky-God Oguz and also the Oguz people.
e) When "ZOROASTER" is re arranged letter-by-letter as "ER-SOZOTAR", it is a form of the Turkish _expression "ER SÖZÜTÜR" meaning "it is man's speech, word, language". Thus again we find the Turkish OGUZ and AGUZ relation as I have shown that it also the case with the supposedly Greek name ZEUS.
f) From the name "ZOROASTRIAN" we get new meanings: when rearranged letter-by-letter as "TORANZI-AR-OZ", it is a restructured and disguised form of the Turkish _expression "TURANCI ER OZ (Oguz)" meaning "Oz-Man of Turan". By another name, this is the "Oguzman of Turan", "Osman of Turan" and "Turkman of Turan". This clearly indicates the origin of the Zoroastrian religion being a Turanian (Tur/Turk) Oguz religion.
g) When the name "ZOROASTRIAN" is rearranged letter-by-letter as "TORAN-AR-SOZI", it is a restructured form of the Turkish _expression "TURAN ER SÖZÜ" meaning "it is the word of Turan man". This again indicates that the origin of the so-called "Zoroastrian" religion was in Turan and by a Turanian Tur/Turk person whose name was OZ (OGUZ). Hence the so-called Zoroatrianism religion attributed to so-called "Aryan" (Arayan) Iranians was actually a repackaging of the oldest world religion an its Turkish language that was broken and restructured. Again we have all been conned by some cabalistic priestes.
h) And finally at this time, when the name ZARATHUSTRA is rearranged letter-by-letter as "SARH-ATAZTUR", it is the Turkish _expression "SARI ATASHTUR" meaning "it is yellow fire". In this Turkish _expression, SARI means "yellow' and "ATASHTUR" means "it is fire", and "ATASH" means "fire". Of course, "yellow fire" is a representation of ancient Turanian "Sun god". This describes the icon used for the religion. The Zoroastrian temples always had continuously burning "yellow fire". We even get the same icon on some of the internet sites dealing with Zoroater and Avesta. Sun is an ever lasting and burning "yellow fire". (If you click to this URL:http://www.crystalinks.com/z.html, you will see and know what I mean). Burning "candles" in the temples are a result of these ancient traditions. The yellow light and fire of the candle burned in temples is a representation of ancient Turanian "sun" worshipping.
Thus in AVESTA , that is, the book of ZARATHUSTRA, the original language used in its composition was a dialect of Turkish language (most likely the AZERI dialect) and it constituted the foundation for the so-called Indo-Iranian languages that broke and rearranged the words and phrases of this Turkish dialect. These broken and restructured languages from Turkish makes up the so-called "Aryan" languages. The word "ARYAN is a deformation of the Turkish word "ARAYAN" meaning 'wanderer" however with a new assigned meaning of "noble". Just like all European languages, that is, Greek, Latin, Italian, English and all others, the ancient Iranian (so-called "Perse") language is very much restructured, disguised and mystified Turkish words and phrases. Judging from the nature of European languages, the Sanskrit must also be a restructured form of ancient Turkish language. The Avesta names as adopted into Rig Veda and thus into Hinduism indicate that this is very much the case. To further prove this point I will give some other names from the Avesta glossary. Please see:
http://www.avesta.org/zglos.html (glossary of Zoroastrian terms)