Re: [hrl_2] Re: Family words came first for early humans - New Scientist
Greetings. The word ABA meaning "father" is a variation of ancient
Turkish APA meaning "father". In ancient Turkish "Sky-God" (GÖK
TANRI) was also called "APA TANRI" meaning "father god".
The root word "AM" meaning "mother" is also the Turkish name for the
genital of all mothers. Thus, the root words "AM/AMA" meaning
"mother" is pure Turkish. Additionally "MAMA" meaning "mother" is
also from Turkish "MEME" meaning mother's "breast" which is the
"mother" to all children. The name "MAMMALIAN" or "MAMALIAN"
referring to all milk feeding "mammals" is from the Turkish word
"MEME-LI-EN" where Turkish infix -LI means "with" and suffix -EN/AN is
the ancient Turkish plurality suffix making the word to mean "living
beings with breast". Thus in present day Turkish, the word "MAMALIAN"
would be "MEMELILER" meaning mamals. Indo-European and Semitic words
using the root words AMA, MAMA, MEME are unquestionably sourced from
It is indeed infantile on the part of those who explain such
words as Turkish ATA, ANA, APA, AMA, etc, as "child's language".
This so-called "linguistic" explanation is indeed a silly concoction
inorder to deny the fact that these words are from Turkish language.
It is a game designed to put down Turkish. In an ancient Turkish
speaking world, these words would have been common to many peoples.
Related to these basic family words please read my paper at URL:
Best wishes to all,
David L wrote:
> AB /aba/ means "father".
> AM /ama/ means "mother".
> There is a morphology to those words but I have not been able to
> decipher it yet. AM is a compound of A and M, the meanings of the
> two parts gives rise to the definition of "mother"; the same is true
> for AB.
> Chidren call their parents after what the mother expects the child to
> call them, and that has come down to us from the original language,
> though it has changed slightly among the various languages. And
> children also learn from other children in society forms such
> as /ama/ and /aba/.
> --- In email@example.com, "Kamil Kartal"
> <kkartal@m...> wrote:
> > http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99996188
> > The World's No.1 Science & Technology News Service
> > Family words came first for early humans
> > 09:30 26 July 04
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> > One of a Neanderthal baby's first words was probably "papa",
> concludes one of the most comprehensive attempts to date to make out
> what the first human language was like.
> > Many of the estimated 6000 languages now spoken share common
> words and meanings, notably for kin names like "mama" and "papa".
> That has led some linguists to suggest that these words have been
> carried through from humans' original proto-language, spoken at least
> 50,000 years ago.
> > But without information on exactly how often these words
> occur across distantly related languages, there has been little
> evidence to support that claim.
> > What is more, some words of similar sound and meaning, such
> as the English "day" and the Spanish "dia", are known to have arisen
> > Now Pierre Bancel and Alain Matthey de l'Etang from the
> Association for the Study of Linguistics and Prehistoric Anthropology
> in Paris have found that the word "papa" is present in almost 700 of
> the 1000 languages for which they have complete data on words for
> close family members.
> > Common ancestry
> > Those languages come from all the 14 or so major language
> families. And the meaning of "papa" is remarkably consistent: in 71
> per cent of cases it means father or a male relative on the father's
> > "There is only one explanation for the consistent meaning of
> the word 'papa': a common ancestry," Bancel says. He presented the
> findings at the Origins of Language and Psychosis conference in
> Oxford, UK, in July 2004.
> > But debate over whether modern languages carry the remnants
> of the language spoken at the dawn of humanity is likely to continue.
> Don Ringe, a linguist at the University of Pennsylvania in
> Philadelphia, says that babies may simply associate the first sound
> they can make with the first people they see - their parents. That,
> too, would lead to words like "papa" acquiring similar meaning in
> many languages.
> > Even Bancel admits that there will never be conclusive
> proof. "We have no Neanderthals around to ask."