Dear Mr. Steve, 


Thank you for writing.  Yes, you found me.  I am the Mr. Kaya whom you are looking for. I understand you read my paper about the archaeological findings at Göbekli Tepe, in Turkey.  I am glad that you enjoyed what I wrote in my paper. Thank you for reading my paper as well as sharing your thoughts with me.  

Regarding my first name Polat, although it is an old name, is not as widely used as my last name Kaya.  The name Kaya is more common and it means "rock" in Turkish.

Dear friend, regarding your points about the stones and their shapes and pictorial information on them, what you say is correct and valid.  In order to be able to leave those kinds of artifacts for posterity, the fields of knowledge that you pointed out are a must for the artisans of that era. Those people who commented on them rather disparagingly do not know what they are talking about as you pointd out.  Cutting a huge stone from a huge rock is not like cutting a piece of dough with a cookie cutter.  It requires all kinds of knowledge about transporting, shaping, erecting, and also safety cinsiderations to make sure that one does not end up under any of these huge stones while cutting.  Surely, they did not have the present-day technology, but I feel that they must have had other very effective tools and knowledge to cut, remove, transport, locate, shape and carve figures on them.  Such activities are not simple tasks. It seems that modern archaeological "expert" commentators like to put down the ancient people as if they were nothing else but only hunter-gatherers.  This kind of talk is unwarranted and uncivilized towards these ancient peoples!

A very close friend of mine is planning to go to the Göbekli Tepe site hopefully this summer and see those findings first hand and take some detailed pictures that we cannot find on the internet.  I am hoping he will come back with much better detailed views of the carvings on those stones and then we will be able to say even more about them.  Particularly, I would like to see better views of the drawings on the stone shown in Figure 6 of my paper.  I believe it has something to do with water channeling and irrigation of fields implying that they were very advanced farmers. Of courseif an ancient group has developed the skills of farming, that means they had advanced civilization. It also means that they had also domesticated many of the farm animals- which are again very civilized and advanced notions.

Thank you again for sharing your views with me.  I enjoyed reading them. If it is ok with you, I would like to put your letter in my Polat Kaya library and also in my website www.polatkaya.net. If you have time and interest, you may find other writings of mine in the following sites.

http://www.polatkaya.net/Articles.htm
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/Polat_Kaya/
http://www.storm.ca/~cm-tntr/


With my best wishes to you,

Polat Kaya

04/May/2011



Steve wrote:
 

Dear Mr. Kaya,
I am hoping that you are the same person who posted this: http://www.polatkaya.net/Gobekli_Tepe_pictures.html.  I am not sure how common a name Polat Kaya is. I have a friend from Mongolia who told me that his totally unpronounceable name is equivalent to "John Smith", given that it is widely used.  So, I am hoping that you are the same person.

Anyway, assuming that you are the same Polat Kaya, I have an observation about the ancient structures such as the one at GÖBEKLI TEPE.

Many "archaeologists" always claim that these very ancient structures were created by primitive people who used very simple tools.  I have done much stone work and I say that these "archaeologists" do not know what they are talking about.  I looked at many pictures of the structures at GÖBEKLI TEPE and the idea that extremely primitive people created these structures with primitive tools is ridiculous.  One thing that I read that seems quite absurd is "archaeologists" were complaining that they found no tools anywhere near the site.  Why would the builders have left their tools?  I have built many buildings and I would never leave my tools behind.  The tools are expensive and I am used to them, why would I leave them?  It is obvious to me that people who make statements like this have never built anything.

Here is what you have to have to create structures like the ones at GÖBEKLI TEPE:
1.  Advanced knowledge of geometry and algebra.
2.  Advanced knowledge of trigonometry
3.  Methods and tools for cutting large blocks from a quarry.
4.  Methods and equipment for transporting large blocks.
5.  Methods and tools for shaping blocks, in 'cookie cutter' fashion, into the shapes seen at the site.
6.  Methods and tools for carving animals into the blocks, such as this http://www.polatkaya.net/Gobekli-Tepe-16.jpg.
7.  Methods and tools for setting out straight lines, angles of given degrees, curves, and other shapes that then have to be cut.
8.  Advanced understanding of astronomy and astrology.

You need advanced mastery of several sciences.  It is obvious to me that one of the purposes of GÖBEKLI TEPE was astronomy.  Now to build an astronomical observatory you must have a very high understanding of both geometry and trigonometry and, of course, astronomy and astrology.  To master all of these you have to know algebra and calculus.

One thing that I have noticed about the "experts" is that they always equate hunter gathering to "primitives" and they equate farming to "civilized" people.  I find this to be very bizarre and it tells me that these "experts" don't know what they are talking about.

Regarding tools.  Primitive, ancient tools cannot be used for this kind of work.  To make the kind of cuts that are obvious at the site you have to have advanced tools.  You also have to have such a high understanding of advanced math that it is second nature to you. I am guessing that either water or wind were used as a power source.  I have used water driven tools myself.  They are quite effective at cutting shapes into stone.

It is obvious from looking at the "carbon copy" design of these structures, at Gobekli Tepe, that some automated cutting method was used.  I am guessing a water driven device.  We have these today.  I have used them myself.

I have lived with "primitive" peoples in south America, the Pacific islands, and east Africa.  There is no way that these people could have grasped the technologies needed to create GÖBEKLI TEPE.  No way.  Whoever designed and built this site was very advanced as they had mastered algebra, calculus, geometry, trigonometry, astronomy, astrology, and advanced construction methods.  As well as some method for cutting and transporting large stone blocks.

Let me comment on how difficult cutting and transporting large stone blocks is.  I have watched so many documentaries which gloss over the difficulty in doing this.  "Oh, the primitive people just cut the blocks with their primitive stone tools and then they carried the multi-ton blocks hundreds of miles to the site".  People who say this kind of nonsense need to go back to school.  Unless you have ADVANCED knowledge of mathematics and ADVANCED technology you cannot cut and move large stone blocks.  Sorry, it cannot happen.  I don't know how the ancients did this, no one does, I expect.  But, I do know how they did NOT do this.  They did not get thousands of people and move these multi-ton stones around with ropes.  This is so impractical that anyone who possessed the mathematical, construction method, astrological, and astronomical skills to contemplate building such a structure would have laughed at anyone who suggested cutting and moving the stones
 using such a primitive approach.

I enjoyed reading your discussion on this topic.

Steve